No, seriously...
What, you were expecting chariots of fire? Zombies, perhaps?
Well, I know you were all kind of disappointed when it turned out that David Koresh didn't quite pan out... I mean, he was from Texas, a place that seems to be full of bumbling fundies just dying to spread Jesus love through banning very anti-Christian stuff, such as a teacher being fired when students in her class saw a nude painting at an art museum or banning a book about book banning... Go figure, huh?
So there's a new Second-Coming of Christ in, of all the weird places, Massachusetts! Apparently he's becoming quite a popular Jesus too! He presently has 300 congregations--no, you read correctly--300 congregations around the world worshipping him. (I mean, if you are Christ, I guess you expect that kind of thing...)
Do you want to know who one of the first "Second-Coming of Christ's" was? It was around 591 CE (not AD, just to piss off the fundies!!). His name wasn't recorded, although, if you read his story you'll see he kinda sounded like a Robin-hood type:
Before him, actually, was a fellow by the name of Theudas who appeared a mere 10 to 15 years after Jesus of Nazareth was crucified! Now that's what I call a "coming soon" messiah! Reportedly, though, he was a short-lived messiah, as they all seem to be:
A man of Bourges, having gone into a forest, found himself suddenly surrounded by a swarm of flies; as a result of which he went out of his mind for two years. Later he made his way to the province of Arles, where he became a hermit, clad in animal skins and wholly dedicated to prayer. When he emerged from this ascetic training, he claimed to possess supernatural gifts of healing and prophecy. Further wanderings took him to the district of Gevaudon, in the Cevennes, where he set himself up as Christ, with a woman whom he called Mary as his companion. People flocked to him with their sick, who were cured by his touch. He also foretold future events, prophesying sickness or other misfortunes for most of those who visited him, but salvation for a few.
In fact, "he organized his followers in an armed band, which he led through the countryside, waylaying and robbing the travelers they met on the way." In fact, he distributed all the loot to the poor and needy, that category including, no doubt, many of his own followers. Bishops and inhabitants of local towns were threatened with death unless they worshipped him.
Hmm... I'm wondering how long this messiah of Massachusetts will survive? Granted, so far he has more congregations than your normal, average, every-day messiah... I mean, 300 churches world-wide? How many cult leaders can boast that? (Well, besides the Pope...)
It came to pass, while Cuspius Fadus was procurator of Judea, that a certain charlatan, whose name was Theudas, persuaded a great part of the people to take their effects with them, and follow him to the Jordan river; for he told them he was a prophet, and that he would, by his own command, divide the river, and afford them an easy passage over it. Many were deluded by his words. However, Fadus did not permit them to make any advantage of his wild attempt, but sent a troop of horsemen out against them. After falling upon them unexpectedly, they slew many of them, and took many of them alive. They also took Theudas alive, cut off his head, and carried it to Jerusalem.
There's a dude down in New Mexico right now, who, of course, while claiming to be the messiah (why can't someone for once claim to be the tooth fairy? or Santa Claus? An elephant's pubic hair?), has given a timeline (I know, I know, sounds very Y2K, doesn't it?) for when the end of the world is coming. Apparently, according to Michael Travesser, anyway, all communication with god was turned off on April 19, 2004. No, really! Then, in the fall of 2006 we prepare to enter the "Year of Jubilee" in 2007... well, anyway, you can read it for yourself if you like... he's got it all based on the bible, so it has to be true, right? He's actually (and I kinda have to give him props for this, even if he is a wacked-out cult leader with an imagination) literally doing everything with his cult that Jesus did with his band of twelve merry-men... Of course, good ol' Michael has about 77 followers (that's a little bit more than twelve...), but I mean, we can't expect our messiahs to be perfect, can we? Even Jesus ran away from home once! (Did the town crier in old Jerusalem call out at 10 p.m. every night, "Do you know where your children are? Time and Temperature brought to you by Caesar's Treasury, where you can always expect your hard-earned money to go!")
You know, though, what would be the truly ironic thing? If this really was Jesus coming back all these times (Come on, people, sing it with me: "All we are saying.... Is give Jees a chance!!!), and the fundies are so busy looking for him they aren't even seeing him... I mean, the Jews certainly didn't believe (well, most of them anyway...) that Jesus was the messiah the first time around! So even if he were to come back (which he isn't... he's quite dead, you know...), most of them would claim him a wacko (hehehe... "wacko" sounds like "Waco"...) and brush him off as a "false messiah" and keep staring at the clouds, waiting for the chariots of fire...
Sigh. Perhaps they'd just try to fire him, or perhaps ban him from their schools and churches... perhaps let him live this time? Yeah, I don't think so either...
Who needs Jesus to really come back when the one they imagine to be is so much better?
17 comments:
You better hope you are right about this, cause if you arent, this post alone would send you to hell.
That is not very nice, Anonymous. No more quarters under your pillow! That goes for your children, your children's children, and their children, and their children...for seven generations.
Thanks for the link to The Puerto Rican Jesus. I love reading about cults. It just baffles my mind to see the extent to which people can shut their rational faculties. It's just amazing.
Anonymous: I'm pretty damn sure I'm right about most things, but I can always learn... And if sky god wants to send me to hell because he doesn't know how to market himself correctly, that's fine, too.
The Tooth Fairy: Wow! You do exist!!! Het, where's my five bucks from that tooth I lost in 7th grade, huh? Just because it wasn't a natural falling off and it involved a bike accident, I still think I should be compensated... :)
Ergo: Ah, yes, the idiotic masses... It does make for great reading material, doesn't it?
I would think that the expections are so high for what the second coming would be like, the real thing would be really disappointing. Ya'no, like a movie with a really good trailer and marketing strategy, but just sucks once you pay your $10 to sit and watch it for 2 hours?! lol
Jason, I agree on your story, but not the link. Michael Travesser is NOT a Cult. He was proclaimed to be a cult by KOBTV and others. His enemies write his work to be a cult, in order to bash him. He gets bashed, because he is telling the truth. Lyers do not get bashed, no, they become President!
The prophecy by the Arch Angel Michael was from 2001 to 2004. Then the Messiah Prophecy went to Red Elk. I recon God might need an new Messiah body every 3 years, I do not know. At www.redelk.org humble REAL AMERICAN (halfbreed) had made him a website. Well, whatever.
Messiah must be an Real American, not an immigrant. I told this to Michael, but He did not comply to my demands. India? Jesus was a Shamen, not a Pharisee! Not some immigrated Roman Marine!
Now the big story on the web is, Michael is having wet pussy every where. So men get jealous, his honourable virgins or not where kidnapped.
I love him having 7 times wet or not pussy for prophecy. So God allowed Satan to steal the virgins of Spiritual Truthfullness? Jesus Christ thrown in hell by his Apostles?
I think it is not so.
I think Michael is still an important preacher, first witness of Messiah.
In atheist vocabulary, an alternative to George Bush, the contemporary USCult leader. In Monotheist vocabulary: Better as the Prophet Mohammed. (7 wives and political take over)
However, this take over of this star and stripe cult will not work, if Michael can not experience European Enlightenment also. That´s how I see it. For his opinion on abortion and normal society for gay people, he causes very much suffering in politics. I would take him out of office myself for that. How ask for conversion, if not convert You yourself! An Example for understanding, what must be done!
I forgive easy all things... HO
Dude--what are you smoking?
At least we can agree that Shrubya's a liar... (and who said fundies and atheists had no common ground?)
So, if I understand your (what seem to be) ramblings correctly... You are a follower, or believer, in this Michael Travesser? And you actually believe the end of the world is on December 15, 2007? I mean, the "messiah" does claim "This fall of 2007 will also mark the 1335 days mentioned in Daniel 12:12 which occurs December 15, 2007. "Happy is he who waits and comes to the 1335 days." To Travesser's followers that will constitute the end of the process in which they receive their reward from God which also includes the desolation of the earth."
And, if you'll pardon, I'm still getting over the shock that someone said "pussy" on my blog...
And--what is your basis for thinking that the messiah must be an American citizen? Was this a prophecy of the arch-angel as well?
And HO? Your initials?
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Dude, you seriously need a grammar check, or something, on your comment... Remember, complete sentences ARE YOUR FRIEND!!
I'd ask your forgiveness for not understanding what the hell you're talking about, but you already stated that you forgive easily, so...
The Anonymous Michael Follower is a Pervert. It must run in the cult. You can read some of the things he didn't want published on this website
http://travesser.info
O, now I am being bashed into a pervert.
Well, whatever. Calling me a pervert is less harming to me, as calling me a hypocrite.
Prudence, the one that calls me a pervert, for whatever reason, was having a website bashing a great anointed Son of God. One that has never done her anything wrong to her. People are free to believe whatever they want. Also having movies on her website, that might be very seducing to perverts. I warned her for that, and instead she understanding that many perverts are on the web, and I am worried about these children, she calls me a pervert.
Further:
I acknowledge all Prophets, but I do NOT acknowledge Christians, none. As long as Prudence does not do that, call herself a Christian whatever, I have no problem with her. I understand her position, because most girlfriends I had where like that, and also, most friends of mine that are married or have to cope with a woman. I mean, woman starting a lie in order to start a fight. Well whatever.
Yes, I smoke Mariuana al lot. God told me so. God said to me, you must smoke Mariuana. It helps me against getting noticed. I also look less intelligent when I'm on harmless grass, that gives me an advantage. Mariuana is not addicting, as are most other drugs and booze.
Michael teached me to have communion to the Father. I believe Michael, because many miracles happened to me when I visited Strongcity since 2002. Today Michael is out of my life on the web, but the Anointment is still the same. This might be confusing to mortals, and in the physical it is even more so confusing, because often I do not talk to people, but the Angels that run the people, because I am in the Kingdom of Heaven.
I believe in the Prophecy that Michael Travesser is/was the real Prince Michael. And excuse me for my spelling. I live in Europe, English is not my native language. If Michael says: This World will end in 2007, well, Michael is not the only one to decide these things. I understand Michael's confusion very well, because nobody seems to believe him. Except for me. I have the power to extend this period when we will destroy this Planet. So if the Planet is not destroyed when Michael predicts such, it is so because the other Sons of God are also given certain authority in the matter.
Much better personel could be available, I am not a model follower, neither is Michael. We are just Human Beings. High on mariuana most of the times I am, shocking statements, enemy of all censorship, a flying Dutchman I am.
Also some people that live there on the land of Travesser believe Michael, but on the web today in 2007, it looks to me like I am the only one that has someting positive to say about the Son of God, Michael Travesser.
It's december 2007 now...
Wild Beggar of the Seven Seas are, according to research I conducted, the starters of political victory in Reformation around 1600 AC. Since Michael said, that we had to take a new name, I also use new names on the streets when meeting people.
Being a Protestant is a dangerous Job. So having many names is very confusing to this large blue dressed criminal organisation in the Netherlands, running on stolen tax money, having stealing for a job. Well, dutch police that is, I do not know about US police. Lying in Propaganda calculated mindcontrol.
The smarter lyers teach these lies to the less smarter ones.
My contact to Michael is intellectual. We do not always agree in human matters. I have many more intellectual teachers at the moment on the web. Unfortunately most intellectuals I want to study become Christians, and by that become hypocrites. I not say that to bash them, it is often painful to me that a man I respected can not be normal. I regard myself as normal, not a Christian or cultist, although I prefer to be bashed a cultist to being insulted in being a Christian. These Christians are terrible these days.
People that have no opinion on Michael, and might ask whether they want to know something are normal people in my optics.
So the maker of this blog I regard as normal also, because it is just about the intellectual content of Truth, not about some blasphemous papist claims on books like the Bible or Quran.
I regard history of Reformation as more important than the Bible, while the Bible was made by Reformation so is also part of it. Other holiness like Buddhism, Shinto, Hindu cultures, Nature Religion, Martial Arts, are all valid information to the Kingdom of Heaven.
I am an enemy of belief systems, like the Counter Reformed intellectual buildings as there are liberalism, socialism, communism, democracy, leftwing/rightwing treason, neckties. These to me are political mindcontrol systems, just like the Roman Catholic Church, the Secret Service of the Emperor Nero = The Pontifex Maximus.
Pontifex Maximus Julius Ceasar killed Jesus Christ. The Pope has the same title, this man is very dangerous. Not only to David Koresh. Knighthoods by the Romanists are used, to infiltrate companies and governements all over the Planet. I can prove what I say by the Council of Trent, where the current bashing done by the Christians originated. European Christianity supports Babylonian Sunday worship, as they are forced into by the Council of Trent 1545~1563.
I asked God to Give Michael seven wives, because the Prophet Mohammed also had seven wives. For prophets these things are normal. In the Bible stories these kinky things is a lot worse: Lot had to do it with his daughters, after his wife was changed into a salt pillar. [Genesis Chapter 11]
In that time, there where less hypocrites. These days, such a story would not be accepted by the Christian(=Roman Catholic) censors. They try to burn the Bible anyway. The things that Jesus says are also to very shocking to many, especially Christians.
I think most Christians will stop being Christians if the would read the Bible. Matthew 23 is my favourite, the word Hypocrite is used a lot by Jesus there.
I might also ad, that if you find the Kingdom of Heaven, as Jesus instruct us to do in his teachings, you will not become more happy, you just recieve much responsibility. There is no way out of hypocracy, as to agree on the fact in order to make conversion into normal conduct possibel.
No Christian, that I have encountered, believes Prince Michael. So sometimes I went to try whether the Moslems will believe Michael Travesser, that is why Father and I gave him so many girlfriends. I myself do not need or want a girlfriend or popish wedding at the moment. Father makes me more happy by letting Prince Michael sort them out.
In the past some Jehova's Witnesses believed Michael Travesser. So I regard Jehova's Witnesses as less hypocrites as other Christians. Maybe some even are saved from hypocracy. I don't know.
By the way, Prudence is not normal. Calling me a pervert because I am not a hypocrite is not normal, but looks to me as a brainwashed mind. I wonder who brainwashed her, because Michael never brainwashes people.
I also acknowledge Joseph Smith as a Prophet and Hero of America. I am not a Mormon, but american Christians often only achnowledge one prophet, although many prophets are found in the Bible. This is a very destructive attitude. I acknowledge also the Prophet Mohammed, although I am not a Moslem. God made the Prophets, I do not understand why all people persecute Michael Travesser. There are a lot more very evil man in positions of power, I suspect the Christians might be cowards.
I only call myself a Calvinist because of the Holiness of my Ancestors, The Beggars of the Sea. Many other prophets I support, actually all prophets, and I acknowledge the Pope as the Anti-Christ and the Bishop of Rome, but not as the Pope, also not the Pontifex Maximus. Roman Soldiers killed Jesus Christ, so the stories in the Bible teached me, that Roman Soldiers are the enemies of Human kind. Police officers or Roman Catholics, several interpretations are possibel. A nice example to the people how NOT to be, this Pope. Truth here is however more dangerous: the current Pope was the Chief of the Holy Inquisition Court , before he became Pope. Today that man is an American, Wi.lliam Leva.da . According to my informers, a typical Satanist. The way the Roman Inquisition Court works today, is explained in this movie:
How the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith infiltrated SDA
Researchers told me, that the makers of that movie are killed. If we do not defend ourselves against this thing, that is also going on in Europe, we will all get enslaved by the Roman Catholic Church again. Actually we already are, that is why God wants to destroy the Planet. Technically this will be done with either the Cassini Project or more traditional warfare.
I don't know whether Prince Michael or Lord Lucifer will win, because more than 99% of humanity obeys Lord Lucifer, not Michael Travesser. I asked the previous Pope to help out Michael, but he refused. So I now go bash the Pope by insulting to be not Anti-Christ but a Christian!
I hope we will steal back the seat of this honorable Bishop of Rome. Italians must also agree ... Garibaldi would make a nice diplomat?
I have no authority over Lord Lucifer, but Prince Michael is so very strong, he can kick him all over the Solar system.
Okay, so according to Mikey (he eats anything), the world is supposed to end in 5 days, grand ol' December 15.
And then you come along and say, O Beggar, that So if the Planet is not destroyed when Michael predicts such, it is so because the other Sons of God are also given certain authority in the matter.
Isn't that really just one more convenient cop-out for you "believe in the cult leaders" followers?
Or is god always this wishy-washy?
That's not the point.
I also said, that I do not agree with Michael Travesser on human things. Him telling people what will happen in the future, is not a smart thing to do, for various reasons.
Other things I do not agree about is his position towards Abortion. Michael has the same position as the Pope, that Abortion must be obstructed.
I will explain:
The Pope says, Abortion is illegal, in order to achieve that more Roman Catholics are born, while these families become poor feeding all these mouths. Than immigrating Roman Catholics can be used, in order to infiltrate populations of countries. This has been done many times in America. Today Mexican Roman Catholics are imported that way. In the past Irish Roman Catholics where imported in America, these things are very horrible. Often normal people get killed, being replaced by Roman Catholics. Politics.
Also Michael tried to put up a Church. Well, I do not support this also, because Church is a Roman Catholic lie, that is convenient for infiltrating intellectual efforts.
My position towards Abortion is, that such a thing can happen. If a woman is forced by circumstances to choose for an Abortion, she should be supported by the community. This has a huge impact, because if you understand the hypocrisy of men obstructing Abortion, you might understand that Mary, the mother of Jesus, was raped. Joseph helped her out. If she would have told the truth about how Jesus was concepted, she would have been stoned to dead by these hypocrite fellow Judeans. So Mary was raped. Well, if Abortion was not prohibited by the hypocrites back than, Jesus would not even have been born. Neither would Jesus have been born if Mary would have not lied about it, this was a terrible time in History, 0 AC/BC.
The truth behind these stories is very interesting. Another interesting fact is, that Jesus did not write the Bible, contrary, he did not write one thing in that book...
Michael however does not accept me as an authority. And he is right, because I haven't succeeded in political conquest of the European Union. Yet. I also want to replace the police here by local sheriff's, just like in America. Many Europeans would agree, if they would not have been brainwashed by the Ustashi. Another man might ask; this Messiah has very high demands on his students. Well, it is not my problem, I'm not Messiah.
I returned to this blog actually because off what I wrote on Calvinism and Mormonism. I have met some Mormons over here in Holland, and I have been considering Mormon membership, because I have heared that the Mormons are the Cult that have the most guns. We don't have a National Rifle Assocation in the Netherlands, the Police today steals all weapons we make, for making it more easy for the necktie politicians to rob and kill us if needed. This is why I considered Mormonism. But these people that I would meet, where wearing a Necktie, so are controlled by the Ustashi.
Morman infiltration is very severe. They have their secret Satanist Cult inside Mormonism. Many police officers are Mormons, because of the convenient MKULTRA control by this Satanist infiltration. You can observe this Mormon infiltration by the images of their leaders; they started to wear neckties some where in the first half of the 20th century.
Still I want to carry a gun. Just like in America. So maybe I can find another way. Joseph Smith I regard as a Hero, because he went for Presidential Election, and was shot before he became President, if he would have won this not so honest soccer match.
Currently the Prime Minister of Holland is called a Calvinist abroad. He is wearing a tie, so he is not a Calvinist, but a Roman Catholic. His party is a traditional Roman Catholic political party, using Christian Democracy as a hide out. Christian Democràcy has been constructed by Opus Dei, according to Alberto Rivera, who is also telling the truth. Christian Democracy is compleet blasphemy, students of Jesus Christ are always anti-democrats, what you might understand if you read what had happened at the Sanhedrin, where Barrabas was elected. So not the truth.
All people on Planet Earth, except for myself, is supporting this lie about a Calvinist Dutch Prime Minister, as many other lies about Calvinism. My protest about it to the Church of Prime Minister Balkenende some years ago did not help. It was also very dangerous to me, to go protest there, so I was heavenly armed back than. American Calvinists I often also do not acknowledge as such, so it is not smart to call yourself a Calvinist. I just tried to express some Historical values using this term, but I will take it back, if these American Calvinists, that are actually Roman Catholics, are not arrested for questioning about whether Mary was raped. This is an interesting question to ask them, because of some Vatican Council, that is very afraid of the truth about Mary, the mother of Jesus. So I suspect Mary was raped by a Roman Soldier.
Over here in Europe, most Universities in Britain and the Netherlands are started by the Calvinists. Calvinism is an intellectual discipline, accompied by anti-Propaganda control. If you understand. If you don't understand it is not, so I will explain.
In the Middle Ages the Roman Catholic Church would rule most parts of Europe by Propaganda, supported by Holy Inquisition. So all revolts against the Pope failed, because the people where controlled by this propaganda. The Calvinists in Europe than created an alternative Propaganda, that I call anti-Propaganda, because it is made for the people, not for the Pope, and based on informing the people. By that making their intellect strong enough to resist the Roman Catholic Propaganda. Like whether Mary was a Virgin and so forth, that has also damaged the prophecy of Mohammed!
I do not know what the reader thinks, or chooses to believe or not, so please find the truth on history here yourself. You don't have to believe me. My purpose is to inform, not brainwash. I understand that Messiah is brainwashed as a child, and as an adult also, and that's why I can forgive his popish claims on things he doesn't have any understanding off. Being Messiah is a terrible job, so my position here is also terrible, because this position on Abortion and many other things are horrible positions of popery, that I refuse to support. I only support the Messianic claim here, not the consequences.
He is very wishy-washy, because he is the Living God. Things that are alive change. I have however no authority in the matter, if you want to know the Father, you might want to ask Michael Travesser. While that being warned, that Michael has no clue about politics nor Calvinism, an intellectual discipline. Michael is only telling truth as he experiences it from a body brainwashed by US Propaganda, that very much looks like European Propaganda.
Interesting is, that destroying the Bible is a very important purpose of Propaganda. American Christians do this, by calling the Bible the Word of God. Terrible, because in the first chapter in that book is explained, that the Word of God is Creation, so the Bible is not the word of God. It is about the word of God, understanding it gives wisdom.
Such claims are blasphemy. Obstructing understanding of normal things. Maybe you understand why I have so many warnings against Christians, often only supported by atheists. I mean, knowing God is not your responsibility, but it is better to keep common sense commandments, whether it be from the Bible or elsewhere, because wisdom is very important for survival. Jesus said the same thing.
I hope the hypocrisy becomes visible here. The intellectual efforts of Michael Travesser have explained Hypocrisy also in his writings. That is why he is very important as an intellectual, and he could also be used to create an alternate Propaganda or Anti-Propaganda, as I see it. I might be wrong, but I see no other option now.
Unfortunately Michael does not have any important concept of common sense. I tend to think this is impossible if you are born in America. So some support he needs, otherwise we loose again.
I mean politics here, I am not claiming anything about God, although might give tools to understand God. The only Cult in America that I noticed was supporting common sense was Satanism, as it was erected in 1966 by Anton Lavey. I however warn that this is a Satanic joke, because if you decide to become a Satanist, you have eradicated all common sense, however much federal reserve notes you might make by it.
Being normal is the best cult(ure), that I can think of today. The word church is from the books of Paul in the Bible, meaning community. Community values are a things of common sense or wisdom, and needed to survive. If wisdom has disappered form the community, God will sent His Son sometimes, in order to save the day. And I do not judge any one, please read the Bible or other sources of wisdom in order to find out who judges you.
I also figured out, that the King James Bible from 1611 is not what it is claimed to be. I know the new testament form the greek language, that I studied at a Roman Catholic University, where I discovered this lie about the word Church. The corruption of the King James 1611 Bible is very well explained at this page.
...Judges are also illegal.
Funny. Jesus said in the Bible not to swear. Than people go swear on the Bible in court = an illegal act according to the laws of common sense. This is blasphemy. Defense you might need in court can be found here:
Matthew 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not
forswear thyself, but shalt perform thine oaths to the Lord.
This quote is from a Geneva Translation from 1599. You might want to compare other translations of Matthew 5:33, if you are forced in Court as a Protestant in defense of commonly accepted blasphemy.
If nothing else, my pot-loving Dutch-living prophet, your rambling free association gets props... You make even my mother seem like she stays on topic for appropriate amounts of time...
Okay, so Mikey (who eats anything) may or may not be right, as I assume you are trying to say he is a false prophet? I derive this glimmer of sense from your statement "...I do not agree with Michael Travesser on human things. Him telling people what will happen in the future, is not a smart thing to do, for various reasons.
Perhaps you aren't saying he's a false prophet so much as an idiot?
And you say the only reason the Catholic church opposes abortion is to ensure more Catholics are born? An interesting theory, to say the least... You think it has nothing to do with their position on the sanctity of life? That this position is a sham for nothing more than increasing the Catholic population? Admittedly, these seems a paranoid statement to be making...
About Mary being raped--this implies you DO believe in the immaculate conception of Christ? That he was indeed the son of the Judeo-Christian god (as is accepted by traditional Christianity)? This kind of flies against the words of Mary herself (insomuch as the writings of Luke can be perceived as accurate) when she says in Luke 1:38, "And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word." Of course, she says this right after the angel told her she would be visited by a spirit that night (how very Dickens', don't ya think?), so I am unsure where you get the "raped" thing unless you have some other transcription of what occurred that night...
My personal belief? She and Joseph doodled around, and "Ooops! We have to get married! Let's just say it's god's kid, okay, Josie-wosie? Great..."
Then you said, "The truth behind these stories is very interesting. Another interesting fact is, that Jesus did not write the Bible, contrary, he did not write one thing in that book..."
I think even your everyday fund-idiot knows this...
My question is, why should anyone accept you as an "authority"? What do you bring to the table that no other self-proclaimed prophet or messiah hasn't before?
But after you bemoan the fact that Mikey (who eats anything) doesn't accept you as an authority, you say he's right not to simply because you haven't conquered Europe? Make sense much? Are you saying that to be accepted and revered as an "authority," you must wage war? And I'm sorry, but when you say, "Yet" in regards to conquering of said continent, I just hear "Someone take me seriosuly, PUH-LEEEZE!!!!"
Then you really lose me, as you say, "I have been considering Mormon membership, because I have heared that the Mormons are the Cult that have the most guns." But then you claim Mormonism is, "... [a] secret Satanist Cult." Confused much? Are you seriously saying the only reason you would become a Mormon is so you can tote around a gun? What does that accomplish? Why do you need a gun?
Okay, the ramblings about "Calvanists never wear ties" is just plain weird... I know you say god told you to smoke pot, but did he tell you to smoke it all at once? No recommended daily dose came with that prescription, I'm guessing...
Clue for you: Owning a gun doesn't make you a hero--it just makes you one step closer to a stupid decision that could get someone hurt... Not that I'm saying people shouldn't have the right to owning guns (after all, it is the people who pull the trigger, and not the guns themselves which cause the trouble), but I do believe that, here in America where you think you would have so much fun wielding a piece, you would also be on one of the many persons listed on the new "watch lists" that have sprung up in light of wacko's getting their hands on guns...
Oh, yes, and lest we forget, all hail the special pot-loving Dutchman who, in his words, is the ONLY human being on earth who DOESN'T "supporting this lie about a Calvinist Dutch Prime Minister, as many other lies about Calvinism. "
Dude, seriously, CUT DOWN ON THE POT!!!
Then I read your "Like whether Mary was a Virgin and so forth, that has also damaged the prophecy of Mohammed!"
So was she a virgin or not? Was Jesus the kid of a Roman soldier or not? Where are you getting this information? From what source do these words come from? Prophetic visions? (READ: Pot?)
When you say, "I only support the Messianic claim here, not the consequences." who are these messiahs you DO support? Is Mikey (who eats anything) one of those whom you support? Even though he shouldn't be "prophesying things of the future"?
And how about them apples: God IS wishy-washy!! Who'd of thunk it?But then you tell me, "if you want to know the Father, you might want to ask Michael Travesser." You just told me how foolish he was for prophecying the future... Why should I seek him for other matters? You even go on to say, "Michael is only telling truth as he experiences it from a body brainwashed by US Propaganda, that very much looks like European Propaganda." Then WHY WHY WHY would I seek him to find answers about god? Honestly...
You also say, "Maybe you understand why I have so many warnings against Christians, often only supported by atheists."
Yes, but apparently, a warning against Christians is our ONLY common bond... Much of the things you say here are... Well, just seeming nonsense! Not to mention with a touch of delusion and self-grandeur! (FYI: I seriously hope you don't get a gun...)
You also praise "common sense commandments," but I'm still not understanding the common sense behind needing a gun to be a hero....
Perhaps it IS all a cultural/language barrier that I just can't seem to get through, but, dude, you seem loopier than my Uncle Kip and my brother Mike, and that's saying something...
And, for the last time, you once again praise Mikey (who eats anything) by saying "The intellectual efforts of Michael Travesser have explained Hypocrisy also in his writings. That is why he is very important as an intellectual, and he could also be used to create an alternate Propaganda or Anti-Propaganda,"
Earlier, you said he already WAS being used as propaganda!! Which is it? Could he be, or is he already???
Your double-speak just gets worse from there, so I'm just going to stop trying for the time being... Perhaps someone else can understand and expound upon your thoughts at this time, but your wackiness is just freaky...
Michael Travesser is a paedophile, he has publically admitted to having sex with 14 year old girls, so the only thing that should be being discussed here, is when someone will put an end to his little world, because I dont care how good at fake smiles they are, any 66 year old man who has sex with 14 year olds, needs his world to come to an end as soon as possible.
The world did not end in October 31, 2007 nor did in December 15, 2007, and Michael's followers still believe him.
God is so omnipotent and almighty that is a non-sense to believe he will make a person have sex with his son's wife as a form of divinity. Simply take a look at God's creations, animals, insects, plants, and each and every cell that operates in their bodies, and OUR bodies, that is God at work, almighty intelligence and perfection.
Thinking that God connects with us with things like Michael does it's simply a mockery to God's creation.
A message for Michael's followers: Whether the world is about to end or not, there are many other things to do while on this Earth, don't wait for the end of the world, start enjoying God's creations while you are alive.
Well, I agree with you on somethings. These crazy folks add weight to your cause. They make you seem smarter than you are. But I wonder, what do you atheists agree on? Oh, I know what you agree on, you are each your own god (with a little "g") Isn't that scary to you? I mean the government can come and strip you of everything you have including your rights, and there is nothing you can do about it. Are you sure there is no higher power that you can depend on. Not for your physical possessions, but for your "after this life" well being. Oh, I forgot, you guys may or may not believe or agree on that either. One thing is for sure, this world and everything in it hangs on right and wrong, black and white. Are you right? I mean all of your data comes from someone else's writings right. Was it documented correctly? That's funny, you don't find it hard to believe some ancient writings, but you can't seem to believe that someone has to be responsible for this universe. I mean, where did everything that exists come from? I know you have some humorous come back for that. You people always do. That's how you avoid a point that has been made.
Look, I'm not saying that you have to believe what everyone tells you. I myself have been hurt by "church folks" and some of their lies (not all people in the Church are of the Church). But in the middle of that, I still had to know my maker. He is easier to find than you think. You just have to stop being your own god to see him.
I really hope you find the truth you are looking for.
Dear Anonymous,
See here.
Well, I agree with you on somethings. These crazy folks add weight to your cause. They make you seem smarter than you are. But I wonder, what do you atheists agree on? Oh, I know what you agree on, you are each your own god (with a little "g") Isn't that scary to you? I mean the government can come and strip you of everything you have including your rights, and there is nothing you can do about it. Are you sure there is no higher power that you can depend on. Not for your physical possessions, but for your "after this life" well being. Oh, I forgot, you guys may or may not believe or agree on that either. One thing is for sure, this world and everything in it hangs on right and wrong, black and white. Are you right? I mean all of your data comes from someone else's writings right. Was it documented correctly? That's funny, you don't find it hard to believe some ancient writings, but you can't seem to believe that someone has to be responsible for this universe. I mean, where did everything that exists come from? I know you have some humorous come back for that. You people always do. That's how you avoid a point that has been made.
Look, I'm not saying that you have to believe what everyone tells you. I myself have been hurt by "church folks" and some of their lies (not all people in the Church are of the Church). But in the middle of that, I still had to know my maker. He is easier to find than you think. You just have to stop being your own god to see him.
I really hope you find the truth you are looking for.
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