Still waiting on one single, valid, non-theologically driven reason as to why homosexual persons shouldn't be allowed to marry...
Just one, well-thought, well-supported, well-researched reason to withhold marriage from homosexuals...
When you can't even get a Republican-controlled court to side with you--and please note that the court did it's job, there was no "activism" here--you may need to rethink your purpose in life...
That's assuming you have one, of course. I mean, there is something more to your life than preventing marriage equality, right? Right?
Let's see now... Massachusetts has had same-sex marriage for what--four years now? Yet tornadoes continue to hit the bible belt... Kittens are still cute... The fishing industry hasn't gone under... It hasn't rained blood... Hell, heterosexuals still get married there!
But don't worry... "Pro-family" organizations (which aren't) have promised to spend millions of dollars to prevent gay marriage in California instead of helping the poor and needy... After all, what good is food and shelter if gays can get married?!?! (I'd like to ask Dobson and Co. to show their zeal and unfailing support by going on a hunger strike... I won't believe you're committed to this until I see you as starving and as needy as many fellow Americans who could use that money for more life-affirming uses...) Please, please show me how committed you are... If a hunger strike isn't your thing, how about some purple fruit juice? Oh, I know, I know--"Listen to that evil homosexual who wants us good Christians to drop dead!" Since you fundies aren't doing me any favors (and why would you? I'm only your neighbor...), could you at least do god a favor, and stop embarrassing the hell out of him, and the many other decent, fair-minded Christians who could give two shits about your fight to keep rights special and exclusive?
The rest of us who live in the world would appreciate it...
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Okay here is my opinion on it . As I do not support Homosexuality in any way . I do not however make it my lifes work to go around condeming or judging people who do . It is my personal belief . I do think though that if a person chooses to make a life partner with the same sex , I think they should have the same rights as married couples. I think they should be able to have their partner on their health insurance . I think they should have the right to speak for the other if in a life or death situation. Ect...... But that is just my opnion on it.(bob)
As a Californian, I am oddly in the minority on this particular issue (or at least I was back in 2000). It seems odd to me that so may people are so dead set against marriage between gay partners, particularly when their is no finiancial gain from such a ban (as there was in the case of the unequal treatment of slavery). It is silly for people to look to the government to tell other people who they can and cannot marry. The court here did its job. Now its time to do mine. I'll be looking around for organizations in support of keeping the California State Constitution free from being raped by bigotry in an attempt to cement the unequal treatment of homosexuals in our state's highest law. So, are their groups I can get in touch with?
Just a current update: Recent polls put the support for a ban on gay marriage at 54% in CA. That's not people who are just opposed to it, or don't agree with it. That people who want to ban it by modification to our state constitution. Rightly, the Gov is against actually making constitutional amendments for this. However, it's going to be an uproad battle to keep bigotry from infecting our state's highest document.
Bob: You show more common sense than most, and thank you for your honesty.
FC: As for groups continuing to make sure marriage equality sticks, here are two that I found online that seem pretty respectable (although by no means having done a thorough search of their credentials):
Equality California
Freedom to Marry
I knwo the Human Rights Watch is usually very active in these types of things as well--you can find their icon (the yellow equal symbol on navy blue background) over to the right...
It saddens me to think that many people are so fearful and ready to add discrimination into their state's constitution--and this is the most liberal state (so-called) in the union! Sigh Thanks for the update however. You probably hear more and see more being there, and those of us out East continue to have our fingers crossed. It means a lot to know there are fair-minded people out there who know what is right and are willing to say so, even though polls show it (barely) a minority position to take...
Interesting post. I am a lesbian woman, and I'm currently working on a thesis about how women (gay and straight)feel about same-sex marriage.
I've found that many women who are against it tend to fall back to religous reasons. I've also heard the "it's not best for the children..." excuse. One woman that I interviewed said that she's against gay marriages because if we could get married, we'd have adoption rights, and gay relationships aren't good environments for children.
I've since read a lot of data that has negated those beliefs, but it's all about perception. We are perceived to be irresponsible...maybe?
California is not a liberal state by any stretch of the imagination. SF and Berkley are highly liberal, but that's like labelling the entire state of Texas as kooky because Austin. It's media hype, and modern revamp of what the word conservative means. California is very middle of the road and even conservative on a lot of things. Personally, I call myself and extreme centralist. When special interests are involved, I rather a government suffer from gridlock than to actively legislating on this or that agenda. Anyway, I ramble now. :)
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