Friday, April 6, 2007

Someone's Watching You...

Driving home from work today, I saw that once again the Lutheran church on Mountain Road decided to try to sound catchy and witty by placing once more some little mind-numbing witticism on their billboard out front. Granted, most of them make me laugh so hard I veer a little around the S-curve (like the fact that every summer they put up "You think it's hot here?"). But today's just made me think, "Why would he bother?"

Today the sign proclaimed, with great pomposity:

"God is watching you."
I lead a pretty boring life--I like it that way. When you grow up surrounded by drama, you find solace in those quiet moments, when soft music is playing on the stereo, the dog is laying by your feet, the phone is unplugged, and your time is your own to ponder things like this. I go to work (AKA Micro-managed Hell in a Building) and sit at a computer and deal with emails that say things like "Where's that PDF? We need it now!" or "Here's 600 corrections to this awful author's latest novel--we need it by the end of the day, is that okay? Thanks." I come home, eat some dinner, watch a little television, read a book, what-have-you. Nothing very exciting or drama filled. Why would God bother?

But then a Sunday school flashback strikes, and I cower at the stop sign briefly as I shudder at this hateful time of learning about the "love" of Jesus. God, supposedly, is everywhere. (How'd you like the smell of those intestinalized taco's, big guy? Makes you wish you weren't watching in the toilet, doesn't it?)

But--wait a moment... If God is everywhere... And I'm supposed to think "it's hot here,"...

Reminds me of that line from The Birdcage, when Robin William's character says "So this is Hell... and there's a crucifix in it." Classic.

But then, I thought the whole concept behind hell was the absence of God's presence... So God couldn't be everywhere, could he? I'm sure some Jesus-hugger has come up with some clever ill-logically-thought-out scenario in which sky god is present while also allowing us to not have his presence while we slowly become human Hot Pockets for eternity, but it does seem only fair that if he's going to make us spend eternity in an Easy-Bake Oven for something we didn't even do (When was the last time a snake offered you some fruit?), he should be frying for eternity as well.

Of course, if we continue this train of thought, and sky god really is everywhere, (and we all know how the fundies like to take everything so freakin' literally) then God is also in your shit, your snot, the aroma of your fart... He's there in the cum that the rapist spews into his victim's vagina, in the knife that cuts the throat of the hostage, in the water that drowns the people in the path of the tsunami... Which means that God is also a part of things that are evil, or morally wrong in the eyes of society. And for a God in which John claims there should be no fear in the love of (1 John 4:16-21), the whole thing not only becomes very disconcerting but also hypocritical on a whole new level. So what's a Christian to do? (besides continuing to ignore every other aspect of their religion that makes no sense?)

Of course, if one reads Isaiah, God fully acknowledges that he is at the very core of evil, chaos, destruction and death (so much for "God is Love"; see Isaiah 45:7 and Lamentations 3:37-38). As, it follows that if sky god is claimed to have created everything, and everything is inclusive of evil, the whole thing is really just God's screwed-up fault. And it follows in my mind that, why would you want to worship someone or something that fucked up so badly? Even if it was not his intention (which would negate omnipotence, mind you), you now have a God that not only can't control what the hell (this part you can take literally) is going on, but the best idea he could come up with to try to make things right was to kill his kid (you know, the "one and only begotten?). Wasn't it worth it to him to kill himself? If he was so upset, distraught, and overcome with emotion at what he created, why not put his own life on the line? I mean, Holy Casper and Jesus would still be there to carry the weight of the world (if you also buy into the whole Trinity fiasco), so why kill the kid? Talk about not taking responsibility!

So where does that leave us? With an irresponsible, non-omnipotent God who, even if he is everywhere, is an active participant in the evil he created, whether of his own volition or not. Oh, and he's a murderer (but we'll just keep blaming ourselves for that, right?).

Yeah, great God you got there. But at least you have the comfort of knowing the next time your taking a shit, it's like communing with your lord and savior... Literally.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

God made the world perfect it is man kind who added the "shit " in it. It is our Free will which caused the world to go to pits. God is there but he is not going to stop the free will he has given us. You obviously have been hurt by some one who was a Christian. You have such hatred for God .Sorry for that.

Jason Hughes said...

Wouldn't you agree that it's hard to hate something that doesn't exist? Might as well say I have such hatred for flying pigs, or such anger at pink elephants... See how silly that sounds?

Reread the post...

fcsuper said...

Yeah, I personally live in constant hatred of those pink elephants. Not so big about flying pigs either, but as long as they stay in the sky, I'm ok with them.

Anonymous said...

Good post! Highlighted--quite blasphemously, I might add--one of the many many ABSURDITIES in believing in some kinda "god."

Btw, free will is incompatible with God's existence. Either He knew we would screw, because he's omniscient, in which case HE screwed up first creating all this SHIT and we have no free will, or we HAVE free will and and He didn't know what crap we were going to do, and we did, and He's totally upset, but He's also not all-knowing, omnscient.

Anonymous said...

hello jason! Jesus took on the cross all on His own. the prayer Jesus prayed in the garden before He died was all about letting the cross thing to be put aside but Jesus knew it couldn't be so He took on His Fathers will to die for us. you don't have to understand it all about how God does things to understand laying a life down for people especially for people that reject God is a true act of love. Jesus was God in flesh so you can't really say that God didn't take own the cross. i think its funny how the only thing that upsets people the most is when God is brought into something and all you hear about is why God should not be there and He is taking away this freedom of mine and that He messed everything up that is wrong with this world. are we that full of pride that we can't see that we have hearts that are wicked from the start? jason, i hang on to the fact that i remember you did ask God in your heart when you were young that whenever God takes you out of this life into the other life that you will be in heaven. like i always say i don't give to hoots that you are gay but the fact you don't have a belief in God anymore hurts me the most. my prayer is for all my kids and grandchildren go to heaven with me. just because you don't think God exist doesn't mean He doesn't exist. i will keep praying for you jason that you will see how much God does love you. now i am really tired. those pills that i am taking make me more tired i think. i have one more day with them and i should be cured and not tired anymore! maybe i will be able to preach longer! :) pass that plate around for me! the pills i am taking took all my savings!! :) take care jason. love and prayers

Anonymous said...

Your comments in this post are completely vile. From the comments, I am assuming that 'mom' is actually your mother. You mock her faith when you post trash like this. Her desire is to see her children saved from hell. Even though you made a profession of faith when you were younger, your denial of God shows that your profession was not genuine. Your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit proves that your place in heaven is not secured. I pray that someone will be able to get through to you before it is too late. As a mother myself, I know there is no worse thought than one of my children dying and going to hell. It is such an important thing, your salvation, I cannot imagine someone being so flippant about it. When you are laying on your death bed someday -hopefully many years from now (assuming the rapture doesn't occur first) do you not think that you will be concerned with where your soul will go when you pass? OR if the rapture happens (and I believe it will very soon) will you see the people missing and admit that you were wrong? So many people refuse to live by faith, yet that is what God has called us to do. If you don't live by faith, there is no hope after this life. If I am wrong, what have I lost? If you are wrong, you have lost ALL? My faith isn't about being scared into heaven - it's about being scared that I will never see Jesus who hung on a cross for my sins (and there are many) so that I wouldn't have to. I do not want to sound like a preacher (apparently you have had a bad experience with preachers or someone in the church). If you had a child of your own (I assume you dont - maybe I am wrong) you would know the great love that a parent has for his/her child and the idea that maybe, just possibly your child might go to hell forever would be the worst thought in the world. The Christian life is not about being scared into heaven --as a matter of fact, you cant be scared into believing in Jesus --it IS about having just enough faith to say He is real and He loves me and I will believe even when I don't see Him. I pray for your mother as she prays for you. You have no idea what you are doing to her with your defiance toward God. Someday, I hope you will accept your mother's God and turn your back on the 'crap' this world has to offer you.

Jason Hughes said...

FC: It's not so much the flying the pigs do that you have to watch out for... Ever see bird shit on your car window? Now imagine pig poop... Shudder...

Ergo: You have a wonderful way of nut shelling... I envy that in you... :) I'm going to be back eventually to follow up on your global warming post, but it still may be a while... very busy these days...

Mom: You said: laying a life down for people especially for people that reject God is a true act of love. I disagree highly, but that's going to be another post, so I'll cover that there...

You also said: are we that full of pride that we can't see that we have hearts that are wicked from the start? What's so wicked about us from the start? I know, you're going to come back with how you always have to tell a child "No," or that you never really have to teach a child to say it back, but a lot of those "no"s aren't because the child is doing something wrong--just something we as adults deem either "unsafe" or "not smart"--neither of which equals "wrong." You mentioned over lunch the example of the stove--I would have learned not to touch the stove even if you didn't tell me "no." And if I didn't learn, then survival of the fittest would have reigned. You also brought up that "God didn't want to take away our free will." I still contest that, if God is as all-powerful as you claim, he could have made a world in which we all had free will and still would have always chosen him. For an all-powerful God, this is not a conundrum, and there's no two-ways about it--although we could take up tomorrow's lunch hour going in circles again if you like! :D

You also said: just because you don't think God exist doesn't mean He doesn't exist.
And just because you think he does doesn't mean he does. Logical circle, so kind of moot...

I'm sure we'll talk tomorrow though! :D Love you!

BBB: I know you aren't trying to be obtuse, so I'll also take your statements point-by-point.

You said: Your comments in this post are completely vile.
And?

BBB: From the comments, I am assuming that 'mom' is actually your mother. This proves that you are not incapable of deductive reasoning, and for you there is hope... And not the religious kind...

BBB: You mock her faith when you post trash like this.
And? Nothing is too sacred to not be mocked--even myself! And when things do become "too sacred," that's when we're all in trouble--not just we heathens...

BBB: Her desire is to see her children saved from hell.
Let's entertain the notion that this hell exists, and hence also a heaven. If there is to be no sadness in heaven, my mom won't know if I'm there or not, will she? For her to know I'm in hell would be to introduce sadness, wouldn't you agree? So even if I were to end up in your imaginary place of torment, my mom will still be no worse off...


BBB: Even though you made a profession of faith when you were younger, your denial of God shows that your profession was not genuine.
So now you play Holy Spirit? I'll inform Casper that he can stop being so damn chipper all the time and that you'll cover for him when he needs a vacation. Good to know you have this ability to read sky god's book of life...

BBB: Your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit proves that your place in heaven is not secured.
I always pictured Martha Stewart would get the job of making the reservation cards for the places in heaven. It makes sense, doesn't it? Not that I'm a fan or anything--I hate lime green!--but why don't you try leaving the reservation schedule to who you claim is in charge, okay?

BBB: I pray that someone will be able to get through to you before it is too late. As a mother myself, I know there is no worse thought than one of my children dying and going to hell.
See above--you may know it now, but your sky god will ensure your ignorance when you reach the pearly gates... Hence, you have no need to worry! There, now, don't you feel better?

BBB: It is such an important thing, your salvation, I cannot imagine someone being so flippant about it.
Try it--you may like it.

BBB: When you are laying on your death bed someday -hopefully many years from now (assuming the rapture doesn't occur first)
Don't hold your breath. You'll die long before any sort of religious rapture occurs...

BBB: do you not think that you will be concerned with where your soul will go when you pass?
I know I won't. I've been near dead a few times in my life, and not once did the afterlife pop into my head as something to worry about. Perhaps you need a near-death experience to make you see the world more clearly and less like the fairy tale world you desire? Just a thought...

BBB: OR if the rapture happens (and I believe it will very soon)
As stated earlier, don't hold your breath...

BBB: will you see the people missing and admit that you were wrong?
I'm hoping the rapture happens in the form of a plague... It would seem fitting for the OT god, wouldn't it? Calling his beloved treasured people into heaven by making them suffer... He did it with the Israelites... But I've already admitted that if every Christian I knew suddenly disappeared, and there were no logical explanations (i.e., you all went to a compound in Texas and poisoned yourselves...), I would believe. But as that's never going to happen...

BBB: So many people refuse to live by faith, yet that is what God has called us to do.
If God were calling, I'd hate to see those long-distance charges! "Faith" is just a fluff word for "ignorance" when used in the religious context.

BBB: If you don't live by faith, there is no hope after this life.
Maybe not for you...

BBB: If I am wrong, what have I lost?
Your entire life...

BBB: If you are wrong, you have lost ALL?
No I haven't! What a silly thing to say? I wonder if you'd feel that way if a Muslim asked you the very same thing? Or a Hindu? I haven't lost a thing--I've gained a life that is my own, as it should be.

BBB: My faith isn't about being scared into heaven - it's about being scared that I will never see Jesus who hung on a cross for my sins
That's why you mentioned hell, right? Why the fear you'll never see your dead god?

BBB: (and there are many)
What could you have possibly done that a son of a god would need to die for you? This is the egotism of religion that is so baffling--like you are that important? Puh-leazze!!! As if an all-powerful omniscient God would need to care for us... As stated earlier, if indeed that God would want that none should perish, but that he would also want us to come of our own free will, he could have set up the entire universe to work in that way without a problem... But he didn't. So either he doesn't care that "some will perish," or he isn't al powerful... Reread the post to get a clearer understanding...

BBB: so that I wouldn't have to.
NEWSFLASH: You're still going to die. So much for that promise...

BBB: I do not want to sound like a preacher
Too late...

BBB: (apparently you have had a bad experience with preachers or someone in the church).
Because it couldn't possibly be that I simply sat down, started thinking about everything I had been taught in my life, and concluded that it was wrong, right? Perish the thought! Of course, God forbids that we truly think about things--that's where your faith kicks into high gear. Get a clue.

BBB: If you had a child of your own (I assume you dont - maybe I am wrong)
About more than you know...

BBB: you would know the great love that a parent has for his/her child and the idea that maybe, just possibly your child might go to hell forever would be the worst thought in the world.
As stated earlier, your sky god has promised to erase your memory, and you won't be the wiser.

BBB: The Christian life is not about being scared into heaven --as a matter of fact, you cant be scared into believing in Jesus --
Well, it's clear you aren’t a Southern Baptist then...

BBB: it IS about having just enough faith to say He is real and He loves me and I will believe even when I don't see Him.
Yeah, the blind always have an easy time with that...

BBB: I pray for your mother as she prays for you.
I'm sure she appreciates that.

BBB: You have no idea what you are doing to her with your defiance toward God.
I'm actually helping her grow as a Christian--that's what she says--so therefore it's all working out in the end. She's growing closer to sky god, and her memory will be erased when she dies, ergo, win-win. Other than that, we have nice discussions about our differences in life view, have a great friendship, and I know she doesn't lose any sleep (see her comment above) about it. So, really, this reach for a guilt trip is ill-founded.

BBB: Someday, I hope you will accept your mother's God
Ain't gonna happen...

BBB: and turn your back on the 'crap' this world has to offer you.
Why is this "crap"? I'd truly like to know your reasoning (if there be any)?

I don't know why I bother. You'll either ignore this completely and leave, or you'll ignore it completely and ramble on about "God" and "Jesus" and hell fire (even though it's not about being scared, apparently), perhaps even try the "anger" or "guilt trip" again... I know how you fundies like throwing around those buzz words...

Anonymous said...

I notice that none of the "fundies" pointed out that they feel Jason is wrong in his premise that God is the embodiment of evil...

A tacit, subconscious agreement, perhaps?

Anonymous said...

this is your mother again jason! jason, i don't have the time to go into each point but i am going to try to on the phone with you since i talk better than write. :) one point i will try to cover right now is what do you call all the other things dad and i tried to teach you kids about the "bad"(wicked) things? pride, jealousy, envy, lying, hate, etc. now you can't tell me that WE don't all have to fight this stuff and i know when i try to fight this stuff on my own i do not win! that is the difference in having God in my life and not having God in my life. He changed me from the inside out and helps me to fight the "bad" things. now i don't know all the inside out stuff of the Bible but i do know how God changed me and how i ran from Him. my feelings are not always right and after i have my prayer times i can do the things i know are right since i have the power He promises to give us to help us do the right things and not the things i FEEL like doing. if anybody thinks they can be "good" all the time without God in just loving others the right way every day well i think someone is taking some feel good crap. i know what i fight each day in doing the right thing for others and we won't even go into all the other "bad" things people fight each day. i know i am going on but jason i know you know what i mean on all this stuff. i love you and know i can't do the changing but i do pray for you and the rest of the family each day and the only other thing that gets me fired up is the subject of coutry music. now thats is whole other subject but your father pointed out a small thing to me in that arrp magazine, or whatever, (the old age magazine). well, in there Stonewall Jackson is sueing the opry for not putting him on the stage since the people running the opry only wants young stuff. a he is also to country and old for the opry that should be playing country music!!! now that is the crap i hate to hear. pop music should be played where it should be played and country music is never to country for true country fans. if you don't like it go to another type of music and stop trying to get rid of the country in country music. as you can see jason i have some issues. :) i should take an extra high blood pressure pill and drink some tension tamer tea today. your dad gives this news to me right before bed last night and it got me all worked up and i probably should of just crocheted all night. :) life is just so messed up when you have to sue to get to play at a place that is supposed to be able to play country! i won't even touch on the thing about the gray hair people that the opry owner said not wanting to see in the audience either. i think i actually found a lawsuit i can agree with. :) i guess i will go since i have cleaning to do. that will help. :) :) love and prayers ps thank you bbb for the prayers.

Anonymous said...

Jason,
You said, "I don't know why I bother. You'll either ignore this completely and leave, or you'll ignore it completely and ramble on about "God" and "Jesus" and hell fire (even though it's not about being scared, apparently), perhaps even try the "anger" or "guilt trip" again...".
This is yet another thing you are wrong about. It would be rude of me to ignore your comments so I won't do that. I am a Christian, which makes me a child of the King of Kings. I am not a beggar. I will not beg anyone to come to Christ. I made my point(s) and you disagree with all of them - case closed. Mu suggestion to you is that you continue living in the sinful way you are presently living and make the most of this world. Because the truth is that if you keep denying God and living like hell on earth -- this world is the best you are ever going to get. So you best make the most of it.
Hear that sound? That's me shaking the dust off my feet and moving on where people are not complete smart alecks and are willing to hear the truth. Apparently, you can't handle the truth.

Jason Hughes said...

LOL! Okay, BBB. Have fun...

Darkmind said...

Hey Jason...You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!! BWA HA HA HA!! You know, from what I can tell, you have a choice between a path of darkness or blind faith. Seems to me neither one can see where they are going, but at least on the path of darkness no one is bossing you around...

Anonymous said...

hello jason! this is really for bbb if she sees this and i hope she does. i can understand you are upset and think jason is being smart with you but when it comes to reaching out like you are trying to do i think we can't take it personal because jason is not looking at God the way we do. i always looked at my kids like my missionary project and even if my heart hurts i will not turn away from them or anybody else i care about since they are saying that they disagree about God, not us. people rejected Jesus when He walked this earth and He still loved them and tried to be there for them. and God still blesses them with the good things this earth has for them. the sun shines to warm them and rain comes to grow the crops and so on. my heart does hurt for jason and others who don't see God the way i do but i will continue to try to react to them in love and realize that they hate the message i have and not me. and if they don't like me either for the message i am sharing i really don't let that bother me since i know i am loved by my Heavenly Father and He does take care of me and His love will be enough. i like that you are reaching out and i look at this blog as a way to reach out to others the message of God. i am thankful at least for the fact jason is letting me do this since he has the power of taking this off and telling me not to do this. if that time does come i will respect his wishes since my love for him goes deep and i always have my prayer life that he can't do anything about or no one else can take away. :) please don't let what jason says to stop you from bringing the message of God since you have a good message that you should pass on because you never know who will read this and it will be just enough to soften a heart towards God and we have another person who will be in heaven with us. thank you jason again for letting me talk to some else on your blog. love and prayers

Anonymous said...

i can't believe i am doing this yet with this blog thing but after reading your answer to me again about the free will thing. i think that God could of made us different but the way i understand (which is very little) if God gave us a free will and we always went back to Him that would not be free will. He would of made us into robots which He didn't want. i do not want you kids to love me because i made you but because you love me for who i am and you could trust in what i do for you and what i say you should do. knowing you 'lawyer jason' you probably have and answer for this also. :) but i continue to try. :) i am not as young as you are and my brain is slipping! :) now i got to go and do something else with my day and stop typing like i have nothing else to do. couldn't go to workout since ice is on everything around here and was not going to risk falling. will spring ever show up?!?!? well, love and prayers :) ps thanks for the pizza last night.

Anonymous said...

Mom,
I had no intention of returning to this site, but I wanted to see if Jason had any other comments. I am so glad that I did. I feel that the Lord is urging me to encourage you.
You are very wise. I just hope your son see that wisdom before it is too late. I pray for you and all the other mothers who have children who refuse to believe. As I said in my earlier comment, as a mother the most important thing in this life is for my kids to come to know Jesus.
I know so many mothers who have prayed faithfully for years for the children. You are wise to leave it to God and live out your faith in front of your son. The hard part is to realize that He loves your son more than even you do. Your witness will live on even after you are gone. Your son will never forget your faith.
I believe a mother's prayer for her child is especially effective because a mother's love is stronger than any other earthly love there is. So, keep on praying Mom, because God is faithful to hear our prayers and He knows your mother's heart. When you pray for so long for something you want so much, it is that much sweeter when God says yes.

Jason Hughes said...

BBB: So first you wanted to come back to see what else I could say to enrich your life, but since you did fulfill your natural inclinations of curiosity, it now must be sky god wishing you to encourage people...

How quaint...

Mom, you said: what do you call all the other things dad and i tried to teach you kids about the "bad"(wicked) things? pride, jealousy, envy, lying, hate, etc. These are all valid emotional responses that humans have on a daily basis. It is people's actions and reactions in the face of their "wicked" emotions that cause trouble. Certain reactions are bad for society, so they are pooh-poohed. Others are deemed good, or even of no consequence, and hence, aren't labled "evil" or "wrong." You do get through them on your own strength... But I'll go there later with you...

You also said if anybody thinks they can be "good" all the time without God in just loving others the right way every day well i think someone is taking some feel good crap.
well, then I'm taking some feel-good crap, I suppose! :D I treat everyone with respect until they show they don't deserve it, which can be shown through a variety of ways.

Let's take BBB for example. I bring up some valid points about how this sky god supposedly is supposed to be everywhere, why that's an issue, and logical conclusions about such, granted, in a very satirical but valid way. BBB calls the post vile, trots on about faith and Jesus and hell, never taking any time to examine the issue set forth, and then throws in a guilt trip or two, all without even the slightest hint of a person who has examined theur faith in any meaningful or valid way--they just vomit up whatever they've been taught and that's that. They make me sick. You, although I know you've grown in faith, continue to talk with your children and examine the issues (granted, most of the time over the phone, not here), try to understand where we're coming from, we try to understand where you're coming from, and then we, as you said this morning, agree to disagree. BBB has no such compunction, at least not that she's exhibited here, so I dub her Fundie Moron, Queen of Illogic, Joker of Reality. There is no reasoning with fundamentalist whack-jobs, as has been proven over and over, but an effort would be nice. Some like you, Cori, Kevin, Bill, and a few others take the time to get to the meat of the matter, give a detailed explanation on what they think, feel, or believe, and we go from there. BBB, on the other hand... well, we'll let that go before she gets a martyr complex... We all know how much fundies like to proclaim their persecution...

Wes, I think you stopped by earlier, but welcome just in case. I also noted how no one ever quite said "God is not evil!" at first, but then I didn't expect them to... :D

Darkmind: LOL! That popped into my head as well! Are you trying to say I'm a hot scientologist? :D Or just another character in a script? Oooo.... That brings up an excellent point for a post in the near future!!!

Have a great weekend all!

fcsuper said...

"It is our Free will which caused the world to go to pits. God is there but he is not going to stop the free will he has given us."

And where in the bible is this doctrine from? Talk about pulling something out of your bu...sorry, I was going to say butt when I really mean ASS!

mom said...

hello jason! this is really for bbb if she sees this and i hope she does. i can understand you are upset and think jason is being smart with you but when it comes to reaching out like you are trying to do i think we can't take it personal because jason is not looking at God the way we do. i always looked at my kids like my missionary project and even if my heart hurts i will not turn away from them or anybody else i care about since they are saying that they disagree about God, not us. people rejected Jesus when He walked this earth and He still loved them and tried to be there for them. and God still blesses them with the good things this earth has for them. the sun shines to warm them and rain comes to grow the crops and so on. my heart does hurt for jason and others who don't see God the way i do but i will continue to try to react to them in love and realize that they hate the message i have and not me. and if they don't like me either for the message i am sharing i really don't let that bother me since i know i am loved by my Heavenly Father and He does take care of me and His love will be enough. i like that you are reaching out and i look at this blog as a way to reach out to others the message of God. i am thankful at least for the fact jason is letting me do this since he has the power of taking this off and telling me not to do this. if that time does come i will respect his wishes since my love for him goes deep and i always have my prayer life that he can't do anything about or no one else can take away. :) please don't let what jason says to stop you from bringing the message of God since you have a good message that you should pass on because you never know who will read this and it will be just enough to soften a heart towards God and we have another person who will be in heaven with us. thank you jason again for letting me talk to some else on your blog. love and prayers

Jason Hughes said...

BBB: So first you wanted to come back to see what else I could say to enrich your life, but since you did fulfill your natural inclinations of curiosity, it now must be sky god wishing you to encourage people...

How quaint...

Mom, you said: what do you call all the other things dad and i tried to teach you kids about the "bad"(wicked) things? pride, jealousy, envy, lying, hate, etc. These are all valid emotional responses that humans have on a daily basis. It is people's actions and reactions in the face of their "wicked" emotions that cause trouble. Certain reactions are bad for society, so they are pooh-poohed. Others are deemed good, or even of no consequence, and hence, aren't labled "evil" or "wrong." You do get through them on your own strength... But I'll go there later with you...

You also said if anybody thinks they can be "good" all the time without God in just loving others the right way every day well i think someone is taking some feel good crap.
well, then I'm taking some feel-good crap, I suppose! :D I treat everyone with respect until they show they don't deserve it, which can be shown through a variety of ways.

Let's take BBB for example. I bring up some valid points about how this sky god supposedly is supposed to be everywhere, why that's an issue, and logical conclusions about such, granted, in a very satirical but valid way. BBB calls the post vile, trots on about faith and Jesus and hell, never taking any time to examine the issue set forth, and then throws in a guilt trip or two, all without even the slightest hint of a person who has examined theur faith in any meaningful or valid way--they just vomit up whatever they've been taught and that's that. They make me sick. You, although I know you've grown in faith, continue to talk with your children and examine the issues (granted, most of the time over the phone, not here), try to understand where we're coming from, we try to understand where you're coming from, and then we, as you said this morning, agree to disagree. BBB has no such compunction, at least not that she's exhibited here, so I dub her Fundie Moron, Queen of Illogic, Joker of Reality. There is no reasoning with fundamentalist whack-jobs, as has been proven over and over, but an effort would be nice. Some like you, Cori, Kevin, Bill, and a few others take the time to get to the meat of the matter, give a detailed explanation on what they think, feel, or believe, and we go from there. BBB, on the other hand... well, we'll let that go before she gets a martyr complex... We all know how much fundies like to proclaim their persecution...

Wes, I think you stopped by earlier, but welcome just in case. I also noted how no one ever quite said "God is not evil!" at first, but then I didn't expect them to... :D

Darkmind: LOL! That popped into my head as well! Are you trying to say I'm a hot scientologist? :D Or just another character in a script? Oooo.... That brings up an excellent point for a post in the near future!!!

Have a great weekend all!

FCSuper said...

Yeah, I personally live in constant hatred of those pink elephants. Not so big about flying pigs either, but as long as they stay in the sky, I'm ok with them.

mom said...

hello jason! Jesus took on the cross all on His own. the prayer Jesus prayed in the garden before He died was all about letting the cross thing to be put aside but Jesus knew it couldn't be so He took on His Fathers will to die for us. you don't have to understand it all about how God does things to understand laying a life down for people especially for people that reject God is a true act of love. Jesus was God in flesh so you can't really say that God didn't take own the cross. i think its funny how the only thing that upsets people the most is when God is brought into something and all you hear about is why God should not be there and He is taking away this freedom of mine and that He messed everything up that is wrong with this world. are we that full of pride that we can't see that we have hearts that are wicked from the start? jason, i hang on to the fact that i remember you did ask God in your heart when you were young that whenever God takes you out of this life into the other life that you will be in heaven. like i always say i don't give to hoots that you are gay but the fact you don't have a belief in God anymore hurts me the most. my prayer is for all my kids and grandchildren go to heaven with me. just because you don't think God exist doesn't mean He doesn't exist. i will keep praying for you jason that you will see how much God does love you. now i am really tired. those pills that i am taking make me more tired i think. i have one more day with them and i should be cured and not tired anymore! maybe i will be able to preach longer! :) pass that plate around for me! the pills i am taking took all my savings!! :) take care jason. love and prayers