tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post3377394618678557217..comments2023-10-19T11:36:49.184-04:00Comments on Life & Otherwise . . .: The God of Clay Things...Jason Hugheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15643595412184843553noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-36228573291096454112011-05-30T14:09:48.286-04:002011-05-30T14:09:48.286-04:00DaBich: That's why I copied and pasted... LOL!...<b>DaBich:</b> That's why I copied and pasted... LOL!<br><br><b>FC:</b> LOL, yeah, I tried leaving comments too, but Jay-sus forbid you try to challenge them on their own point of view with something resembling a thought process-- :D<br><br><b>Darkmind:</b> Wow! When someone comes out of hibernation, they do it with a bang! I never knew you had it in you to write such long comments! <br><br>I never knew that about Mark Hoffman (that in-depth anyway--I'd heard his name mentioned before...) and you bring up a fascinating angle that I had never truly considered in this context! Thanks for the info...Jason Hugheshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15643595412184843553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-47413639609358632542007-07-23T12:19:00.000-04:002007-07-23T12:19:00.000-04:00DaBich: That's why I copied and pasted... LOL!FC: ...<B>DaBich:</B> That's why I copied and pasted... LOL!<BR/><BR/><B>FC:</B> LOL, yeah, I tried leaving comments too, but Jay-sus forbid you try to challenge them on their own point of view with something resembling a thought process-- :D<BR/><BR/><B>Darkmind:</B> Wow! When someone comes out of hibernation, they do it with a bang! I never knew you had it in you to write such long comments! <BR/><BR/>I never knew that about Mark Hoffman (that in-depth anyway--I'd heard his name mentioned before...) and you bring up a fascinating angle that I had never truly considered in this context! Thanks for the info...Jason Hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643595412184843553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-86603987750010172802007-07-22T16:39:00.000-04:002007-07-22T16:39:00.000-04:00Anyone who finds any artifact that somehow "proves...Anyone who finds any artifact that somehow "proves" part of the bible, like...I dunno...an old tomb with a name in it, or a clay tablet with a name on it, or a sheet with a face on it. Whatever you find, I have just one name for you:<BR/>Mark Hoffman.<BR/>This guy was one of the greatest forgers in history, he created documents that fooled even forensic chemical document analysis techniques. He created all this "proof" for the Mormon church and they took it and ran with it, paying him handsomely for his finds.<BR/>Now think about this for a second. Do you really think that he was the only forger in history? And since biblical stories go back thousands of years, you have at least that long for people to have come up with "proof" during that time. Imagine I am someone who wants people to follow my newly made up religion. Now imagine this is 2000 years ago when forensic document analysis didn't exist. I decide to make some "proof" that my religion is real, so that people will follow me. The "proof" looks legit to the people of the time, and is accepted as real. Now this "proof" would be considered sacred and would be kept in a safe place. Now, over the years my religion gets persecuted, and I am forced to hide the sacred "proof". Then I get killed. Since I am the only person who knows where this "proof" is, it is lost to time, and only the survivors keep the legend of this proof alive by writing it down in a sacred book. Then some guy is digging around and finds this "proof" which just happens to be the right age, according to modern analysis, and even looks legit for the time period. Now everyone is head over heels beleiving that this "proof" guarantees what they have been guessing all along.<BR/>Same thing happened with the Shroud of Turin. Everyone swore it was the burial cloth of Jesus, then when it was tested is was found to have been made in the middle ages. Now there are people who don't want their "proof" to be dismissed, so they claim that the sample tested in the 1988 study was from a rewoven repair done my nuns after fire damage to the shroud. And they even got the people who did the study to admit that was a possibility. Now they have to get vatican approval to test another section of the shroud? DO you think they will agree? HELL NO!! They need people to beleive it could be real! And thus the myth (and subsequent tithe money) continues... The thing is, even if it were dated to 33AD, it still would not prove that that was Christ's shroud. Exactly how many bearded guys were crucified that year? We know from the stories that several were crucified at the same time as him on the same day, so what proof is the shroud other than a historical curiosity?<BR/>When the subject surrounds thousands of years of devoted fanatical worshipers who may have needed "proof" to sway new members, even scientifically provable physical evidence may not be any proof at all...Darkmindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183628945441876070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-85411758566880494362007-07-19T20:00:00.000-04:002007-07-19T20:00:00.000-04:00Besides that, even the article itself makes the st...Besides that, even the article itself makes the statement that its rare to find matches in the bible to reality. lol I wonder if any of those fundy site will approve my comments to their postings? :)fcsuperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631601009349459890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-35289305006227853242007-07-19T19:55:00.000-04:002007-07-19T19:55:00.000-04:00I've tried posting on one of those blogs you linke...I've tried posting on one of those blogs you linked...moderated. :p I agree with you. Since Jeremiah was written long after the fact, and by persons who where in Babylon at the time, this more a case of bible writerS copying Babylonian history. This is more like the discovery of single news story being used as proof of authencity for a blog with written opinion of many news stories.fcsuperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09631601009349459890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20581097.post-77408053461423245492007-07-19T08:54:00.000-04:002007-07-19T08:54:00.000-04:00A valid point. I believe in God, and the Bible to...A valid point. I believe in God, and the Bible to an extent, but your post is thought provoking.<BR/><BR/>AND...you can spell Nebuchadnezzer...errr..is that right?<BR/><BR/>LOLDaBichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17526399549691822851noreply@blogger.com